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Geoffrey Holland's avatar

The patriarchal poison the emerges from greed and self-interest.

Vic Cherikoff's avatar

Julian, never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.

Bob's avatar

But fossile fuel also saves life, fertilizers, pharmaceuticals, singel use plastics in healthcare, electrisity, etc

Julian Cribb's avatar

True. But there are ways to save those lives without using the toxic products that kill. It’s just that the cheap ones are more toxic, and corporates prefer profit over human safety.

Bob's avatar

Pharmaceuticals without oil us impossible in todays scale. We use 3.3 trillion liter per year of natural gass only for feedstock. Not to mention all the oil for transport in planes and ships.

We also use diesel in forestry. Healtcare without forestry is impossible.

I dont think healthcare exist when I am old.

Julian Cribb's avatar

The answer is green chemistry and renewable energy. For planes and ships too. It’s perfectly feasible but greed hinders the changeover. Except maybe in China.

Julian Cribb's avatar

But killing 7-10m kids is not acceptable.

Bob's avatar

Modern Healtcare is dependent on a 5 continent supply chain. Soy from Brasil, iron ore from Australia, surgical equipment made with child labour in Pakistan, aluminium from smelters in Island, etc…

Sustainable healthcare is very low tech.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11309522/

Julian Cribb's avatar

I do not see how any supply chain can be used to justify mass murder.